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  How far to bend over backwards??????????

  by concerned mama in

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  2. friends

  my husband and i are part owners of a company.

  the company christmas party is this weekend.

  we do not call it a christmas party, we call it the "holiday gathering".

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  concerned mama

  My husband and I are part owners of a company. The company Christmas party is this weekend. We DO NOT call it a Christmas party, we call it the "Holiday Gathering". We have employees of several religions and we try to make it comfortable for everyone. There won't be a christmas tree at the location we use. We may ask each other how the holidays went, but we don't decorate or make it seem Christmasy. Snowflake /blue and silver decorating theme. It is more of a employee recognition time, and a nice get together. It is pleasant and fun, but certainly not a wild and crazy, hard drinking type party.

  This year, for the first time a 20 years, we have a JW employee. A good worker, and someone we are pleased to have working for us. At this time, she has indicated that she won't be coming to the party. Which is fine, and up to her. One of the other partners feels that we should make her a special invitation calling it a "Winter Gathering". but I think that it is too late for that this year. In any case, she may not want to associate with us worldly people anyway.

  There are also little doorprizes and gift certificates (no Christmas wrap) that normally ONLY go to emplyees that attend the party. Is she entitled to anything like that if she misses the party for a religious reason?

  Opinions, please???????
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  Love Is The Watchtower's Greatest Weakness

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently attended a witness get-together and found that despite my fake hours and lack of nearly all meeting attendance,.

  i had no trouble 'blending in' - even with committed elders.

  i'm not a social genius by any reckoning - but a smile, a few jokes,.

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  A wonderful post, Metatron.

  You can't force information on those who don't want to see, but perhaps a softer approach opens their eyes.

  There was a time when the softer approach was encouraging a rapport with someone, but I lost my temper in frustration over the blood issue, and the level of communication never recovered.

  I have very little contact with active Witnesses now, so when I do, all I hope is that they come away with the idea that there are some kind, trying to be good, ordinary "worldly" people.
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  When you love something you can't have

  by Another Guy in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  here's a little post for those who wonder: can i have a relationship with a jw?

  firstly don't just read my story and accept it as gospel as this is only one person's story, but i'm sure it's a common one.

  this all started a few months ago when i started a relationship with a fellow workmate, lets just call her girl.

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  concerned mama

  You're very welcome, Another Guy. I was glad to explain what I could to you. You were very open to listening.
  

  To all you ex-JWs, please remember that non JWs come to this forum not understanding the JW beliefs nor culture. While I think "run, run" is not a bad idea, it doesn't explain anything, nor help the person looking for understanding. There are really nice people who happen to be JW, so you have to provide a basis for discussion why the relationship won't work.

  I have found by far the best way is to give the non-JW person real JW literature to read (family happiness book, young people ask and watchtower quotes) and information about the culture such as the double life, appearances and what is expected of a good JW. I'm not comfortable discussing doctrine, but provide websites with information if that is what they want. The couple can then discuss these issues, and see for themselves whether they could form a life together that works and will be happy in the long term.

  I find it a huge irony that I am doing exactly what the Watchtower wants, discouraging mixed relationships. What I hope for is for long term happiness for both partners. Gopher explained it so well.

  Another Guy, you looked at the situation with a loving heart but open eyes. That ability to see reality speaks well for future relationships. I'm sorry for your saddness. A breakup with someone you care about so much, is always really hard. Take care.
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  A DEFINING MOMENT

  by Waymores Ghost in

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  minus 30 degrees at this moment, a good drink in hand, and a little bud... .

  i am canadian!.

  wg

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  Yeah, Shamus, but it's a dry cold, right??? (western Canadian joke)
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  A DEFINING MOMENT

  by Waymores Ghost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  minus 30 degrees at this moment, a good drink in hand, and a little bud... .

  i am canadian!.

  wg

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  -29 and with the wind chill, it feels like -39. YIKES!

  I'm Canadian, too.
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  Joy from Death ... A Daughter's Remembrance

  by outnfree in

  1. jw
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  first, i want to thank those of you who learned of my mother?s recent death and quietly sent messages of comfort without violating my need to keep the event unknown to the board in general until a time of my choosing.

  that time is now here.

  i had, of course, written here

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  (((Brenda)))

  My condolences on the loss of your Mom.
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  Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow

  by bisous in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, granted i am a newly-transplanted californian to portland....so maybe not a big deal to most.. but i'm told this is unusual for portland....snow has been falling all morning, there are about 3 inches now...it is a soft, feathery dry snow.

  i've already been for a few walks ... it is so quiet and muted out especially for a city.

  people are out walking (can't drive!

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  It's snowed all night here too. My kids are outside shovelling right now .
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  baptisim questions

  by Globetrotter in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is there somewhere a published list of questions (with answers) that one must answer prior to baptism?

  i am sick of my wife saying that only certain people believe certain things.

  though she has been raised a witness, she has never been baptised.

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  concerned mama

  Are the questions in one of the publications on the CD? Lots of people have the CD and perhaps tomorrow they will be able to help you.

  Welcome to the board, Globetrotter, from another non-JW.
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  facts about the JW religion

  by Dawn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm putting together a brochure for release in my area - to local churches and bookstores.

  on the first panel i want to explain to the reader why the jw religion is not a "harmless" little church.

  so i decided to list in bullet format a few facts that the average person may not be aware of.. for example, bullet 1 will be information on the number of children who have died because of refusing blood (any ideas where i can find exact numbers??).

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  El Cid, that is a good one, too.

  However, I think they have softened that policy. I know very few JWs (in real life), but of those few, one is in university now, and another is planning on going. Their Dad is a CO or something like that, and pretty hard line from what I have heard, but he and his wife are very smart people, and I think he knows that if his boys get an education, they can get farther in life.

  Overall, I do think most JW kids are still not encouraged to go to college. From what I read on the forum, it seems to depend on the congregation.
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  facts about the JW religion

  by Dawn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm putting together a brochure for release in my area - to local churches and bookstores.

  on the first panel i want to explain to the reader why the jw religion is not a "harmless" little church.

  so i decided to list in bullet format a few facts that the average person may not be aware of.. for example, bullet 1 will be information on the number of children who have died because of refusing blood (any ideas where i can find exact numbers??).

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  concerned mama

  Dawn, for information on blood, check the website I sent you. You may find it all there. The exact number of kids isn't the problem, the stated willingness of a Witness to allow their child to die is. To be honest, in developed countries such as most of us live in, social services steps in and the child becomes a ward of the courts and gets the blood anyway. So the death statistics in no way, will reflect how their parents feel about sacrificing their child to the Watchtower. It is the parent's willingness to let the child die, that I find so appalling.

  Link, if the brochure is aimed at non-witnesses, they usually don't give 2 hoots about chronology, and think it is all a bunch of hooey. Non witnesses tend to care more about social issues, because they already think that JWs are obsessed with religion and kind of weird.